September 30, 2025
Q3 2025 Company Update Presentation Transcript
Desert Control Q3 2025 and YTD 2025 Company Update Presentation (Transcript)
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Welcome to the Desert Control Q3 2025 Company Update Webcast. Today's presentation will review our Q3 2025 report and include financial results for the fiscal period ending September 30, 2025. We will also share selected updates from Q4 2025 to date.
Following the presentation, there will be a Q&A session. We have received many questions today, but, of course, you're encouraged to submit questions anytime using the Q&A function. And to begin, Lars Elsmark, Chair of the Board, will share some opening remarks, and after that our CEO James Thomas will present the Q3 update.
Thank you, Ari. Good morning, dear shareholders and supporters of Desert Control. I hope that you all are doing well and enjoying the autumn season.
My name is Lars Elsmark, and I'm the chairman of Desert Control, and I want to welcome you to this Q3 2025 webcast. Q3 2025 was a very eventful quarter. First of all, we closed the rights issue that has given us capital to pursue our ambitions and strategy.
Thank you to all of you who supported the process with positive support and remarks, and to those of you who chose to invest.
We'll do our utmost to live up to your expectations and belief in us. On the same note, the continued strengthening of our balance sheet is an ongoing effort, and the management of the board sees this task as a natural part of our daily support.
The board and management have had organizational build and efficiency on the agenda for some time. Hence, we took the decision to move our R&D in Norway to the U.S. This comes on the back of the acknowledgement that having R&D in different locations was not optimal.
Shipments of tests, soil samples, etc., were increasingly complicated, and the fact that we need proximity to our test facilities, to our customers, and our partners made the decision necessary. This means goodbye to loyal and valued employees in Norway, and
I want to send my gratitude to them for the efforts in taking Desert Control to where we are today.
At the same time, we're also saying welcome to new employees in the U.S. We have earlier informed you of our need to execute swiftly on our strategy in the U.S., and we have several ongoing hiring processes. This is primarily within our Salesforce, the operations team, and in R&D.
We're helped by professional search firms, and we're excited to announce results in Q1 and Q2 2026. The same goes for two additional board members. I've made it very clear that the new board members must be rooted in the southwest of the U.S., and they must have a track record within agriculture and architecture.
We have currently positive dialogues, and I hope to announce the outcome of these in Q1 2026. As you might recall, we underline the importance of being structured in our go-to-market priorities and hence being compliant with our strategy. Permanent crops are an instrumental segment for us, and I'm so proud that we've secured existing pilots—exciting pilots, sorry—in the very attractive segments, almond and wine.
The pilots are leading growers in their segments, and needless to say, important for our success in showing the way for their colleagues. Q3 has also given me the opportunity to interact with our licensed partners at Saudi Desert Control, and so, well… I'm so happy to see their commitment and their investments giving positive results in an environment where you have to be very, very patient, and where solid personal relationships are crucial for success.
Well done, and good luck with the exciting opportunities that you have in front of you. On an ending note, the rights issue and the organizational changes have taken a lot of attention and massive resources from the management team. It's important that we now get back to normal life and concentrate our efforts on generating a solid pipeline, onboarding new colleagues successfully, and staying close to our customers and partners.
Before I hand it over to our CEO James Thomas, I want to wish you and your families a wonderful autumn and winter season.
Thank you. James, over to you.
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Thank you, Lars, and let me add my note of thanks to our shareholders in everyday and in the rights issue. It is, as I said in my letter, fantastic to have a group of shareholders who are so passionate about our mission and our company. Having said that, we actually have some new investors on the call.
To those of you who know the company so well, I apologize, but I'm going to need to run through some of the basics of the company, and I'll try to do that in some degree of haste but provide the right overview. So, as I think most of you obviously know on the call, Desert Control is a technology company in the soil health business, and our target markets are agriculture, trees and forests, and golf and landscaping. The company is now really in its early stages of commercial launch in all of those sectors, and it's an exciting time to be part of the journey with Desert Control.
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Also, just really as a reminder, the product is delivered on site and made fresh in a manufacturing facility we essentially bring on site, and several of you have put in questions on the status of manufacturing, and we will address those through the course of the conversation. We are in the science business, and we are increasingly in the science business. We believe this company has a fundamental role in soil science and is the leader, for sure, in our own technology. All right.
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We've covered this a lot. One of the things that Lars and I have been very focused on is focus, and so despite the capability of this technology in many, many parts of the world, we are intensely focused at this time in the U.S. Southwest and with our partners in the Middle East.
These markets are very large on their own, and the company needs to execute against the near-term opportunities in each.
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Again, this is a slide you’re supposed to have seen before, or at least most of you have seen before.
We are direct in the United States. We are distributor-based in the Middle East. Lars has touched on that, and Jan will touch on that later, and we do offer the product in two ways: the Pay-on-Delivery and the Pay-as-you-save model, which we've executed in the Gulf area, and one that I'm a big fan of. Our revenues from the Middle East come from licensing and hardware sales.
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Sometimes I get questions from investors about, “Why not Spain? Why not Australia? Why not…?” Jan and I get 10 emails a week from somebody who wants to bring LNC to their home market, and the answer to all of them is: we will get to you, but right now we are positioned in two of the three largest markets. We have plenty of opportunity in our core markets, and that will remain our focus in the near term. I'm sorry to all those people who really want us to bring the technology somewhere else, but we have our hands full capturing our own opportunities at the time.
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And I think you know we've covered this, but it's important to kind of come back to it, especially given the recent activity that we're seeing in the pilots. So, permanent crops are truly our focus. Trees is where we've had a lot of success. We are seeing success in early trials in vineyards. We will be doing more of that in the near term, and on the far right-hand slide, we haven't given up on the high-value parts of field crops.
We continue to try and find the right application, and the right academic groups to work with, but I think we've all said before: much as there's a lot of acreage in alfalfa, corn, and cotton, those are not target markets for us at this time. If the product is not being applied in what's truly a high-value situation, we're not doing that at this time.
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So, I think we've touched on this, and we have news, I think, on almost all of these places during this quarter. So, the major turf segments, obviously parks, and you'll hear from John, I think, about some work being done in parks. During the quarter, we did additional work with Cal State Fullerton in their fields and expect to do more work with them in coming times, and golf has obviously been our major focus in the turf segment.
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So, you know, this slide is again something many of you have seen before. Our product is very well proven in 80 percent sandy soils and higher. That is, today, our core customer, and while that may seem in some ways to limit the technology—which we believe over time will be applicable in soils with lower sand fractions—I just would like to remind all investors that the California market in highly sandy soils is a 500 million dollar market by itself. So we don't—at least, I don't feel, and I don't think the company feels—at all constrained by pursuing our highest-value opportunities today, because they, in and of themselves, are very, very large. Obviously, as we move down the sand fraction towards 60, the market expands dramatically, and there is ongoing scientific work there. We’ll keep you posted on how we move it, but in the short run, there's more than enough business in the 80 percent sand and higher level.
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You've seen this slide before, many of you, and you know it's meant to point out the obvious. California is a big market, and we are investing additional resources there. Most of the hiring we're doing is in the California markets, and the pilots that we're doing this week, and the pilots we have scheduled in coming weeks, are all in California. We are not giving up on Arizona. Arizona is a good market for this technology, but the California market is just so much larger, and the emphasis on water savings, water subsidies, and the price of water are all stronger in California than they are in Arizona at this time.
Although there are some interesting things happening in Arizona around government grants and other opportunities to subsidize the technology, so we may actually see Arizona start to perk up. But for the moment, I want to talk about California.
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Equally, you know the other market I want to talk about, or at least make people aware of where we are not yet active, because it's 3,000 miles from where we are active, and we are very focused. The Florida market, at some point, will be very large for this technology.
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Okay, so let's get into the company update, and this is the first slide. We called out, I think, almost all of these in the letter that we wrote and the report we've just published, but I do want to touch on some of the more significant ones that are of interest to shareholders based on all the questions.
Last quarter, we had to talk about where Woodland Hills was, after we'd had our problems with some damage to the irrigation system, and I think it's really good news there. A couple of things we've tried to make clear to the market: the customer is very happy, and the customer is happy with the way we handled the issues that were created. Those issues are behind us, and the customer is really happy with how the golf course looks and their water savings. We are seeing significant water savings in August and September, in particular, two of the hottest months in the LA market, and the product is performing as hoped. I was going to say as expected, but it's performing better than expected, and we will be issuing our first invoices to that customer in the coming weeks. Woodland Hills is in good shape, everybody's happy, and the technology is working well.
Wood Ranch continues to be very happy with the pilot we've done with them. They look at both the soil sensor data and some drone data, and they're quite happy. We are in the process of trying to figure out when to do a full application there. We've got a contract out to them, and we've mentioned in the letter the almonds.
This is, I think, a testament to the demand for the product, frankly. We've talked about adding people to the company, and we've added agricultural sales in the Salinas Valley. Cord and Nunez started three weeks ago, and we already have three pilots — and almonds. Almonds is a 200 million tree market. As I say in the letter, we're not going to get 200 million trees out of it, but I think the rapidity with which we were able to get these pilots shows the interest in our technology from some of the large California crop growers. Almonds are bigger than pistachios and avocados; obviously, we've seen success in dates in Arizona, so I expect to see a lot more activity in the California area.
I touched on this very briefly, but we now see some grant activity in Arizona that issued recently a $1.8 million grant for soil health and soil amendments, which we feel we qualify for. We are working with existing customers to pursue that grant money, and we will know in the first quarter next year on that.
I'm going to let Jan handle the direct slides on the Middle East. He and I were down there three or four weeks ago and spent a bunch of time with our partners and their customers. The story is much the same: they are working hard, they are moving the profile of LNC up the value chain and up the government chain, and it's a matter of, you know, hunting that elephant, and shooting that elephant, catching that elephant — whatever proper term would be used in the Middle East at this moment in time.
On the science and technology side, Lars did mention in his opening comments that we have decided to move research and development to the United States. This decision was not made lightly, but it is really important to move closer to the customers and to the soil types and water types in the US. Despite that move, R&D continues here: R&D at both the very fundamental clay level, R&D at the microbial level, and R&D in some of the agronomy aspects. Some very interesting work is being done both in our own laboratories in Maricopa, continuing work being done here in Norway, and work with collaborators in both California and
Arizona. I had the pleasure of speaking at a function that went on in conjunction with UN Climate Week in New York a few weeks ago.
I was discussing how their technologies are influencing climate health, and I have to tell you the energy at that meeting was fantastic. The solutions being shown by Siemens and by many others — there were probably a hundred exhibitors there — were really, frankly, exciting. For somebody who works in climate tech, it was really exciting to find so many other passionate people and see some of the technologies that are being developed.
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I think I've essentially covered this slide, other than to comment on Berkeley. Berkeley is also quite interested in pursuing further application, and we're in conversations with them about how that would fit into their maintenance cycle. I would want to remind people that we do this during the times when the golf courses are closed for maintenance, so our applications are not, as I would love them to be, uniformly scheduled through the course of the year. They are going to be very heavy in the spring and the fall.
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So, I think I touched on this too—super exciting, right? We're going to do a very large pilot with a very sizable commercial grower that will be focused both on water savings, soil health, and nutrient use efficiency, and, importantly, yield. And, you know, "stay tuned" is, I think, really the right way to say this.
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At this point, I'll turn it over to Jan Veder, our Head of International, to speak about our partners in the Middle East.
Thank you, James. I'll touch briefly on the updates on LNC-related activities in the Middle East, starting with the United Arab
Emirates and Soil. So, in the UAE, our partner Soil is seeing continued strong momentum within the new construction landscaping projects.
We're excited to announce that they've been awarded an LNC treatment for the landscaping of the new Rheem Hills Development, which is a very large new residential community centrally located in Abu Dhabi. This is a large project where we will apply more than 4 million liters of LNC. As for the general sort of new construction projects, you know, we have to do the treatment as the landscaping gets finished, so it's a project that will go on over several quarters.
Soil has also completed the Connect Park with Master City in Abu Dhabi. This is a client that we've done a few projects for now, and where they have included LNC as a requirement for their new public parks. We're quite excited about that. Master City also highlighted LNC technology as a model for sustainable technology within landscaping in their recent ESG report.
Two-three also saw some very interesting demonstration results. Our partner, Soil, has been running for one year a project in the western region deserts of the UAE—very harsh environments—where they've been testing the survivability and growth of newly planted native species trees without regular irrigation. We’re seeing very encouraging results on this, with great interest and involvement from governmental bodies, because there are many tree planting initiatives in the region. What you can do with limited or less irrigation obviously adds significant value. More results will be coming directly from our partner.
If we move to the Saudi side, all right.
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In Saudi, we've had positive progress on validations and collaboration projects. We didn't have any commercial projects in the quarter, but there's more to come. We have a new research collaboration initiated with Princess Nourah University to study LNC in high-clay soils. This is important in terms of broadening agricultural applicability.
Our partner STC also continues to receive positive data points from ongoing validation projects, both in terms of water retention— where we're seeing, in diverse soil environments, still roughly double the water retention for the LNC-treated parts of the validation projects—and in terms of nutrient-holding capacity over time in some of our longer-term validation projects.
In Misk City, which is a very high-profile development within Riyadh’s desert-type environment landscaping, we observed significant water reductions over the harsh summer months, while still seeing better plant vigor on the LNC-treated plants. So, it's very positive news overall.
Just hot off the press
last night—or yesterday—they finished another trial, which is the first trial in the eastern region of Saudi.
Here, we're doing a landscaping pilot and applied the first LNC treatment to initiate a project for Saudi Aramco, which is obviously a large governmental actor in Saudi Arabia. Overall, we see STC continuing to build a reputation as a technology and research leader, supporting Saudi Vision 2030, which is driving many greening initiatives across the kingdom.
So, that's the update from the Middle East. I’ll now hand over to our CFO, Leonard Chaparian, for the financial updates.
Thank you.
Thank you, Jan, and good morning to all of you.
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The figures are shared in detail in the financial report published earlier this morning. These key financial figures will be covered in more detail in the following slides. In Q3, Desert Control continued to make operational progress while maintaining tight cost control, and preparations for upcoming commercial deliveries advanced in both the US and the Middle East.
Total revenues remained limited, reflecting the early-stage nature of the market adoption and the time-based recognition of income under performance-linked contracts. Operating expenses increased compared to last quarter, mainly due to expanded US operations and ramp-up activities, while depreciation decreased, as certain legacy assets were fully written off. At the end of Q3, cash and financial assets stood at 8 million, prior to receiving the proceeds from the 75 million rights issue in early October.
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Revenue from sales in Q3 comes from licensing royalties. For further details, please refer to note two. Revenue remained modest, reflecting the US PACE contract structure, where income is recognized only after verified water savings.
The company expects revenue realization to begin in the fourth quarter, as customer validation milestones are achieved, and invoices commence under the PACE framework. Operating expenses increased; the increase primarily reflects higher field activity in the US, production scaling to support upcoming commercial deliveries, and continued investment in organizational capacity to enable future growth. The period also included approximately 2.5 million kroner in one-off restructuring costs, with limited remaining effects expected in the fourth quarter of 2025.
Excluding these temporary items, the underlying cost base remained broadly stable compared with prior periods, reflecting continued cost discipline.
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Total equity improved slightly year over year, supported by the fully subscribed 75 million kroner rights issue completed before quarter end, with cash received in October. Cash decreased during the quarter due to continued investment in product development, commercialization, and organizational growth, while the rights issue proceeds received after quarter end have significantly improved liquidity.
The proceeds strengthen the company's capital base and will fund operations well into the second half of 2026.
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Operating cash flow now reflects only continued operations, adjusted for depreciation and amortization, highlighting the group's disciplined, cash-focused approach in Q3 2025. Desert Control received 2.3 million in scatter fund grant funding from approved
R&D activities, up from 1.5 million in the same period last year.
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We have recently engaged consultants from EuroNEXT to collect information about our nominees. As required under the EU
Shareholder Rights Directive, we have already published an updated shareholder list that you can download on our web page. For more information, it will be available at desertcontrol.com/investors.
So, back to you, James, if you want to comment on this. Thanks, Leo.
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Yes, we wanted to bring this to all shareholders’ attention.
We had received requests from a couple of shareholders to look behind the nominee accounts, and we worked with EuroNEXT to discover more than 95 percent of the nominee shareholdings. I think the most interesting piece that comes out, if you look at the table, is that we have another large individual shareholder and a few other meaningful shareholders, and they are from the Middle
East or that part of the world.
I find it gratifying, with the Middle East being an important territory for us, to see that we're getting shareholder support in those markets. I think this is a sign of penetration, at least from a share-of-mind perspective, that we see there.
As Leo pointed out, this information is available on the website, but I was gratified to see the support coming from the Middle
East.
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I used these slides in the last quarterly report, and they're exactly the same.
I see the world developing as I did three months ago. I think the company is in a very high-potential place at this time. We have a lot of incoming inquiry.
We have new team members driving us forward. I think the wind remains at our back with regard to the benefits of water saving and soil health that we bring to the party. And, you know, we are still a very small company, as you're all aware, but I continue to be more worried at this point in time about our ability to make enough LNC to meet the demand than I do about the demand for
LNC.
So all of these things remain. Have we see the world?
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I used this slide last quarter also, and I note changes in my expectations with regard to the important milestones in the coming year and a half. Obviously, we're three months into it, and we are in fact seeing better execution in California.
I will answer this question during the Q&A because it has come in, and not surprisingly. We are in the final stages, I hope, of getting a contract negotiated with our contract manufacturer for new units. We are seeing interest at the golf course level and in the agricultural area. I really do believe, after a nice trip down there, that the guys in the Middle East are on the cusp of something big. I know we've felt that for a while, but it's palpable how much progress they're making in laying the groundwork, and I do believe that the use cases for LNC will continue to expand.
One of the things that is very important—and I hate to keep saying it—is focus, focus, focus. We are trying to build the science cases here in a very measured and thorough way, but I expect that we'll be finding new benefits from this product for years to come.
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So, you know, I could have concluded on the other page, but let me just say that six months into this, I am more convinced than ever that LNC will be an important part of the soil health armamentarium for growers who have very sandy soils. We are working hard every day to make that true.
We are working hard every day to do justice to the product by being able to make it in quantity and quality, to apply it in quantity and quality, and to meet customer demands—both for water savings and for nutrient use, and ultimately for yield, which, as I've said before, is important to everybody. Water is important to many of our customers that have high-cost water, for instance,
Woodland Hills. I’m very encouraged by what we see at Woodland Hills, and I think that will be a meaningful breakthrough for the company. I’m also encouraged by what I hear from the people we’re interviewing, because we are doing significant amounts of hiring, and people’s passion for this project internally is great.
It brings us to work every day, but it’s nice to see some of that passion reflected also in applicants. So, with that, I think we’re going to go to Q&A. Oh, let me add one last thing.
We are currently evaluating the right way to communicate with shareholders, and we want to communicate with shareholders in an open and transparent way, which I think we’ve tried to bring to the table. We are evaluating whether quarterly reporting is actually the right way to do that. It is a costly burden, both in actual kroner, where we spend a fair amount of money on it, and in the time that we take to get prepared for it. We are evaluating the potential to change our reporting to make it, frankly, more relevant. For a company at this stage, our financials are of interest, but I think what’s more of interest is what we’re seeing in the field, with the customers, and with the team.
So, with that, thank you for listening to some of that being repeated to you, and Ari, over to you with questions.
Thank you, James. I will stop sharing my screen now, so I am able to read all the questions. We have received some of them, and we can start now.
Q&A session (Summarized written recap of the questions and answers from the Q&A session)
Q: For which species (market segments) in USA, where Desert Control is present, is the business good for applying LNC taken current costs and obvious benefits into consideration?
A: You know, hopefully I've covered much of that in the course of the presentation, because I tried to. I think, and you see it in the customer demand, obviously turf in California, where water costs are high and turf is thirsty, is a target market that I think we've proven at this point.
On the agricultural side, I think we have very good results in date palms, and so we can argue that that's a proven crop type now, and obviously the focus is heavily on other tree crops, beginning with almonds, but I think we'll do trials, as I said in the letter, in pistachios and hopefully avocado in coming months. And so, it's that nexus of crop type, which permit crops are a thing, sandy soils, which are present in Arizona and Southern California, and then water scarcity or water price or both. So, I think that's a core question.
Q: Why are signing of additional golf resorts as PAYS or up front payment absent/delaying? The last ones (Berkeley and
Woodland) were almost a year ago.
A: So, right, so let me try and answer that in a few different ways.
So, obviously golf is a target market for us. In golf, some golf courses have a lot of money, some golf courses don't have very much money, and all golf courses that want to talk to us have high-cost water. And so, for us, the pay-as-you-save model is, as I said before, a great risk-sharing model, one in which we will ultimately receive more payment than we would with an upfront price.
I would expect that as we expand into golf, we're going to see some of both. And from a timing standpoint, look, we've been very upfront about it. The issues that we had at Woodland Hills in July and at PGA West in July slowed down the pipeline, but there continues to be incoming interest.
And so, I'm quite optimistic about golf for the spring of next year and then for the fall of next year, because as I said before, unfortunately, the golf business tends to be very concentrated in spring and fall.
Q: How close are you to concluding the agreement with PGA West, and does the discussion concern one course initially or a contract covering all 12 courses they own?
A: Right. So, let's talk about PGA West. I think we've talked about it before, but PGA West is a group of many courses out in Palm
Springs, Palm Desert, Palm whatever you want, all along the Coachella Valley. The work we've been doing, we're doing with PGA
West, is very much focused more on the research—is too weak a word—on the water savings in the future is probably a better thing.
At the current time, PGA West has an attractively priced water situation. They are very aware and that can change pretty substantially. I think this group is largely aware of something called the law of the river.
We've spoken to that before, which governs how water in the western part of the United States is distributed. It was put in place in 1926 and expires in 2026. And if you're in the American West and you use a lot of water, which PGA West does, you are concerned about your water use.
And so, our work with PGA West was very much on the insurance, if you will, side of that. PGA West is a very research-driven place. They have great superintendents and heads of agronomy.
And so, I expect that we'll be back at PGA West with our next trial sometime in the spring of next year. But we are certainly not on the cusp of signing a golf course or 10 golf course contract with PGA West. When and if PGA West finds itself in need of LNC, I would expect it would be pretty typical that we do a course or maybe two and they'd see how it goes.
So, I'd hate to take any hopes out of the PGA West story, but PGA West is an important customer, a big reference site, very good guys, Nick and Jeremy. But it's not a nine-course deal for next year.
Q: Citybank account owns approximately 10% of the company. Who is behind?
A: Okay, I think we answered that earlier with the nominee disclosure. Go ahead.
Q: When will the new units be ready for use, and is there an immediate need for them given that the prototype appears to be performing well?
A: Okay, great question and one obviously that Jan and I think about every day.
And, you know, it's been slow, right? And I think we've said it's been slow. But I do believe that, you know, we're in the final stages of a contract with the contract manufacturer and, you know, I think that'll get signed this month. And if it wasn't for Christmas next month, I'd say I think we're going to get a unit next month.
But I think it's probably safer to say we'll get it sometime early next year. As far as needing it goes, really great question. You know, the answer is we need it.
And the prototype is performing well and we will use the prototype to do the larger of the almond trials. But with the advance into California, the geography is big just to be perfectly straightforward, right? It's a 10-hour drive from Yuma to the vineyards we're going to be treating in a couple of weeks. And so we need more equipment both for geographical dispersion and because we're getting enough interest where even if the jobs aren't big, we can't be in two places at the same time.
So that's the status of the manufacturing unit.
Q: What specific role will Siemens play in the rollout of the units?
A: So Siemens, the partnership with Siemens has been great. As I mentioned during my presentation, I was with them at Climate
Week in New York.
The team here in Norway is very close to them. But I do want to at least—I’ve heard some people speculating that we're going to have Siemens build the entire unit and maybe take over global manufacturing. And I don't think that will be the case.
We are pursuing contract manufacturers in local geographies. And the control systems will be Siemens. But the actual pipe bending and things will take place closer to the customers.
So I just—I mean, Siemens is great. We're using their technology. I don't think they're going to be building our machines.
Q: Will Desert Control at some point, to ensure smooth global roll out and satisfied partners, outsource everything regarding unit production, maintenance and logistics to a dedicated partner?
A: I don't think so. We're a technology company and we're still an emerging technology company. And we're going to roll this out across a lot of different crop types and a lot of different soil types in a lot of different places.
And that's what we do. It's a core part of who we are and what we do. So, no, I don't see us having kind of a global execution partner where all we do is sales and marketing.
The application is too important, as we found out, both to our success and failure.
Q: The NOK 15 million revenue guidance from the Middle East seems partly outside your control — how confident are you in achieving this?
A: So, it's totally outside of our control. That's to be perfectly honest. I mean, we have partners in the Middle East who are completely in charge of their territories.
So, how good do I feel about it? Look, I was just down there with Jan. Jan and I talk about this. Lars has spent a bunch of time with these guys.
He was just with our Saudi Desert Control partner's head office in Geneva a couple of weeks ago. We think they're on the cusp of big things. And they do have production equipment of their own.
But we think the productivity of the new unit versus the units they have today, our old units that we used before we built the new prototype, is such that they will need new units in order to deliver the kinds of, you know, quantities of LNC that they're talking about needing. So, I can't tell you that it's contracted. But I feel pretty good about it.
Both the machine sales and the royalties. But they got to catch a big account. Because until they catch a big account, they can use their own equipment to do it.
Q: Where will the NOK 15 million in LNC revenues from the U.S. come from, given that only two golf courses are currently included in your guidance?
A: Right. So, I think that the revenue stream from the U.S. will be heavily turf. At least through the summer of next year.
And potentially through the course of the whole year. But the good news is, you know, a golf course is a valuable thing. So, if I was to say to you, do I think two-thirds of the revenue will be golf and one-third will be agriculture, that's probably a pretty good bet.
But this is a very small revenue target and it's a very lumpy business. So, if you think that a single golf course, you know, is 4 million
NOC, you know, it's not a big number.
Q: When do you expect the MOU with Syngenta to be concluded, and are you in discussions with other potential industrial partners?
A: So, Syngenta, I think we'll have news in coming months on Syngenta. Syngenta, as you know, we did an application of the product for them at their Colorado research farm. And harvests are being completed, but data is not yet in.
And so, I think we'll have an update for on Syngenta later in time. As far as other partners, we get approached by potential partners a lot. To be perfectly straightforward, we turn most of those partners down because there tend to be regional partners or not the right fit for us.
And as far as people like Syngenta, we remain interested in dialogue, but I don't have any new partnerships to announce.
Q: When will the UN conclude its pilot project, and what are the next steps once the results are available?
A: I guess I'll take that, Jan. So, look, the World Food Program is something we really want to be involved with.
And I know they're frustrated, we're frustrated, everybody's a little frustrated about how long this is taking. But World Food is important to us. We continue to work with both their office in Iraq and other offices to try and get this thing executed.
And, you know, we literally have the will to do it, but we're up against some significant bureaucracy in Iraq and we're working our way around it. But I personally and the whole company really want to see this project go and other World Food Program projects go because it's a great application for the technology.
Q: We see postings on social media this week on Green Yiyat, 70.5 million trees will be planted and another Green Yiyat project management, especially at Saudi Desert Control, saying that my visit marks the final stage of developing of LNC product.
Can you enlighten us a bit of regarding of the process and the potential of the LNC in this project?
A: I'm not entirely sure what post is referred to here, but, you know, Green Yiyat is one of the large projects related to the Yiyat
City. They're under the Royal Commission of Yiyat City.
And we mentioned last quarter, there are some other projects in the Kingdom, which are being revisited in terms of timelines and budgets and such. But the large projects in Yiyat City themselves are moving ahead. So Green Yiyat, Sports Boulevard, King Salmon
Park, all very interested for us, good partnerships or good fit technically for liquid natural clay.
And both our partners have activities related to these entities. We're not in a position where we can, you know, comment specifically on what they're doing so far, as we mentioned in our update, you know, our partner SDC is very much positioning themselves both in terms of technology and research for this kind of governmental projects, right? So, yes, of course, if there is something significant commercially, we will come back to that. It is a very good fit for us.
And it's a natural thing for us to pursue. And we do have some activities, but we can't go into the details of exactly what they are yet. Thank you, Jan.
Q: In approximately percentage, what level of water savings is Woodland Hills experiencing?
A: So, I think that the way I can answer that is, you know, we have over time suggested that LNC could say between 20 and 30 percent of the water needs in turf applications.
And I would say what we see is in line with our previous thoughts. Thank you, James.
Q: How do you plan to grade shareholder value from the proceeds of this race, considering that the previous findings have led to value erosion rather than appreciation?
A: So, you know, the only way I can answer that question, I think, is that, you know, the proof is in the pudding.
And we are going to be out pushing LNC forward. And we see increasing appetite and we see increasing opportunity in permanent crops and turf in particular. And, you know, that's what we get up every day to do, is to get more LNC in the ground, to have more customers like it, to have more people, you know, pay us for the product.
And that is at the end of the day, we're trying to build value. And we'll do that and have been doing that through the recruitment of team members. And again, what we see is when we have the resources to talk to customers and the equipment to deliver the product, there is interest in having a product.
So, those are the milestones we set for ourselves. I think on the slide we presented them. That's how I measure value creation.
Thank you. That was the last question. And I will just share my screen to say thank you for joining our Q3 report and financial results presentations 2025.
Yep. Thank you, everybody, for listening. Thank you for your support.
Hopefully, the call has provided a sense of our optimism and, frankly, you know, what's really going on in the business. And, as I say, the passion of our shareholder group is awesome. And we look forward to reporting progress in the future.
We're working on that in the right kind of ways. But thank you. And I send along my thanks for the end of the year also.
Her best wishes for the end of year, as Lars did. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.