October 17, 2025
Earnings Call Transcript Q1FY26
“Atlanta Electricals Limited
Q1FY26 Earnings Conference Call”
October 17, 2025
Management
Mr. Niral Krupeshbhai Patel – Chairman and Managing Director – Atlanta
Electricals Limited
Mr. Anand Sharma – Chief Operating Officer – Atlanta Electricals Limited
Mr. Mehul Mehta – Chief Financial Officer – Atlanta Electricals Limited
Moderator
Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Atlanta Electricals
Limited Q1FY26 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal an operator by pressing star then zero on your touch-tone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded.
I now hand the conference over to Ms. Savli Mangle from Adfactors PR. Thank you, and over to you, ma'am.
Savli Mangle
Thank you, Steve. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today to discuss the unaudited financial performance for the quarter ended
30th June 2025. I have with me Mr. Niral Krupeshbhai Patel, Chairman and
Managing Director; Mr. Anand Sharma, Chief Operating Officer; and Mr.
Mehul Mehta, Chief Financial Officer.
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Before we proceed, I would like to bring to your attention that certain statements made during this discussion may constitute forward-looking statements. These statements are based on our current expectations, assumptions, and beliefs regarding future developments and are inherently subject to various risks, uncertainties, and factors beyond our control. Such forward-looking statements involve both known and unknown risks, and we advise you to interpret them with caution.
That being said, thank you, and over to you, Mr. Patel.
Niral Patel
Thank you so much, Savli ma'am, for introducing us. A very good afternoon to everyone. A very warm welcome to everyone joining Atlanta Electricals
Limited earnings conference call for the quarter ended 30th June 2025. Our results, investor presentation, and media releases have been shared with the
Stock Exchange and uploaded to our website. I trust you have had the opportunity to review them.
Today marks a proud milestone for Atlanta Electricals, our very first quarterly results after listing and our first debut earning call. This moment is a testament to your trust and support for which I am truly grateful. Atlanta
Electricals today is recognized as one of India's leading transformer manufacturers over three decades of proven expertise.
Our diversified product portfolio spanning six categories, including power, transformer, inverter duty, furnace, generator, and special duty transformers, positions us to serve critical growth sectors such as utilities, renewables, railways, and diversified industrial applications.
With five advanced manufacturing facilities and very well diversified customer base across India and international markets, we are well-placed to capture the opportunities arising from accelerating infrastructure investments, renewable energy expansion, and rising from demand for renewable power solutions.
The strong foundation underscores our long-term growth potential and ability to create value for stakeholders. I'm delighted to report yet another quarter
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October 17, 2025 of strong growth, marked by robust operational execution and healthy financial performance. This performance underscores the momentum we are building, and I now take you through the consolidated results for quarter ended 30th June 2025.
During the quarter, our revenues increased by about 5.1% year-on-year to Rs.
315 crores from Rs. 300 crores in the previous corresponding period, making a good start for the year on steady execution and deliveries against robust order book. These revenues are from our existing three units, namely Unit 1,
2, and 3, which were and are operating at 100% capacity utilization.
Q1FY26 EBITDA grew by 17.8% with margin at 15.5%. PAT grew by 25.3% with
PAT margin at 9.9%. Growth was driven by improved product mix, higher capacity utilization, and operating leverage, disciplined procurement and manufacturing productivity, and timely pass-through pricing actions on input cost movements.
Before I move to company updates, let me briefly touch upon the broader industry backdrop. Globally, transformers are in a growth cycle driven by renewables, data centers, and grid modernization with market projected to approach approximately 91 billion by 2029 at a 6.9% CAGR growth.
In India, the sector is set for steady high-quantity growth. The overall transformer market is expected to reach 8.5 billion by FY30, about 6.2% CAGR.
In this, power transformer sector is alone projected to reach approximately
$3.5 billion at 15% CAGR with unit demand and installed high-voltage transformation capacity leading up to consistently. This creates a durable order funnel across transmission, industrial, and renewable segments.
Building on this demand momentum, policy support is strong and the visible national plans under NEP/CEA outline a large transmission build-out, including Rs. 9.6 trillion of planned investments by year 2032, a sizable ISTS pipeline for renewables, a green energy corridor additions underway, together providing multi-year execution visibility for the industry.
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For Atlanta Electricals, this translates into real opportunity with PGCIL and
Ministry of Railways approval for a range of 200 MVA/220 KV, four NABL- accredited labs, and capacity scaling towards 63,060 MVA plus. We are well positioned to take part in larger MVA and higher kV class transformer tenders and convert these tailwinds to a profitable growth.
Coming to the recent developments, I'm pleased to share some key updates on Atlanta Electricals growth journey. Our consolidated order book stands at
Rs. 1,584 crores as of 30th June, with strong execution visibility over the few coming months. It is well-diversified across PSU and private customers, anchored by repeat wins and marquee utilities, renewables, and industrial plans.
Over 200 active customers across 19 states and three union territories is what we enjoy a broad base and that lowers concentration risk and supports a healthy shift towards higher kV and MVA, namely 400 kV and 765 kV class products as our new capacity ramps up. We have also successfully completed the acquisition of BTW-Atlanta Transformers India Private Limited, now our wholly-owned subsidiary, we've renamed it to Atlanta Trafo Private Limited.
These strengthens our portfolio with proven EHV design and testing capabilities, enhancing our ability to deliver transformers up to 500 MVA, 765 kV.
Alongside, we operationalized our Vadod Unit, scaling the total capacity to
63,060 MVA. Together, these steps materially enhance our mix towards larger, higher-value products. These newly added state-of-the-art facilities shall contribute significantly to our top line in the second half of this year. I'm happy to share that all these units put together currently, we hold the highest capacity in the nation and all these capacities shall be put to use in the coming times.
We expect our newly built labs to receive NABL-accreditation very soon, followed by plant approvals from Power Grid Corporation India Limited, and followed by the state-owned transmission companies. We are also pleased to note the recent upgrade of bank facilities to Crisil A stable and Crisil A1. This
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October 17, 2025 reflects the strength of our credit profile, lowering borrowing costs, improves access to working capital, and expands eligibility for larger PSU EPC tenders.
Importantly, it validates our execution record and visibility of our book as we scale.
On IPO proceeds, as committed, we have prudently used the fresh issue funds to repay borrowings and strengthened our working capital. This has reduced leverage, lowered finance costs, and supported faster execution of large orders while reinforcing our financial position and enabling a margin accelerated growth.
We now enter FY 26 with a strong order visibility, upgraded credit ratings, and enhanced capacity. With Vadod and Atlanta Trafo fully integrated in our portfolio is shifting decisively towards higher kV, higher MVA products, enabling us to deliver larger projects with greater speed and efficiency.
Demand remains firm in India and globally, and with policy support for transmission and renewables, we see a long runway of an opportunity ahead.
Our strategy remains clear, maintain between PSUs and private mix, deliver on time with cost discipline, ensure margin resilience, and a steady increase of our share of high-value products. With our broad product portfolio, engineering excellence, and disciplined financial approach, we are well positioned to convert today's visibility into sustained growth and long-term value creation.
I would want to close by thanking the entire team of Atlanta Electricals and their relentless dedication and our stakeholders for their continued trust and support. We are confident that our journey ahead will be one of the stronger growth, sharper competitiveness, and superior value creation for all.
Thank you, and we can open the floor for questions now. Thank you so much.
Moderator
Thank you, sir. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. The first question comes from the line of Prathmesh Salunkhe with PL Capital. Please go ahead.
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Prathmesh Salunkhe
Hi, sir. Thank you for the opportunity. So my question is on the BTW capacity.
So we understand that the 15,000 capacity is immediately operational and can be put to use. So just wanted to understand what kind of revenue we can see from this new facility for the full year?
Niral Patel
To give you a brief, on the BTW facility, we have finished the acquisition.
We've also successfully finished the name change. It is a 100% subsidiary of
Atlanta Electricals now. This is a 15,000 MVA facility as of today and has possibility to expand three-phase in coming times. As of today, if we can put
15,000 MVA manufacturing capacity, the total revenue that could be mobilized from this facility ranges between Rs. 600 crores to Rs. 700 crores.
Prathmesh Salunkhe
Okay, understood. Sir, in Q1, most of our new capacity was not operational.
So we understand that we were running on the old capacity. So did we see any capacity constraints in Q2 as well? Like what was the capacity utilization for the full H1 FY26?
Mehul Mehta
The revenue in Q1FY26 came from the existing three facilities and same will be there for Q2FY26. Q3FY26 onwards, this additional capacity of Vadod and
BTW plant will kick in. However, during the end of August and starting of
September, we were able to dispatch few of transformers from our Vadod facility. However, majority of the sales revenue will come from Vadod plant in H2 as well as BTW from H2 onwards.
Prathmesh Salunkhe
Right, sir. Does management would like to give or provide any guidance for the full year, given the new capacities are coming online?
Niral Patel
Sir, very frankly speaking, transformer manufacturing is a long-term plan anyway. To give any sort of guidance as of today will be not right. We would certainly give certain guidance as and when the facility becomes operational at optimum level.
Prathmesh Salunkhe
Understood. Thank you so much for answering my questions. All the best.
Niral Patel
Thank you, sir.
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Moderator
The next question comes from the line of Mihir Manohar from Trust Mutual
Funds. Please go ahead.
Mihir Manohar
Yes, hi. Thanks for giving the opportunity. So, basically, I mean, all the three plants are operational, right? I mean, the BTW acquisition -- the plant from the BTW acquisition plus the brownfield expansion of 30,000 MVA. All the three plants are operational as of now, right?
Niral Patel
All the five plants are operational as of now.
Mihir Manohar
Sorry. Understood. Correct. Sure. Sir, I sort of wanted to understand on the basically kV manufacturing capability across all these five plants, I think Anand
I, Anand II has up to 220 kV. Then the BTW has for 400 kV and 765 kV. And the 30,000 MVA, that is up to 400 kV, right? If you can provide some color around here as to what level of kV can each of these plants manufacture around the transformers around?
Anand Sharma
Good afternoon, sir. Anand Sharma this side. I am COO here. Each of the facility has a distinct voltage class of manufacturing. So, starting from Unit 1, we can manufacture transformers of 220 kV and larger power ratings of 132 kV.
Unit 2, which we have, is used to manufacture transformers of 66 kV and larger ratings of 132 kv means up to 50 MVAs . Unit 3 is a unit which is comparatively pretty small as compared to the other units, wherein we manufacture transformers up to 110 kV and 16 MVAs.
Unit 4, which is a newly built unit of ours, has a capacity of 30,000 MVAs. And that unit is designed in such a way that we can manufacture transformers up to 400 kV. And the newly acquired facility from the JV partner BTW, that plant is suitable and capable to produce transformers and reactors up to 765 kV.
Now, any of these facilities are, let's say, downward side fungible, actually.
So, Unit 1 can certainly produce 33 kV transformers, but that is something we should not like to do in any case, because in that case, we would not be utilizing that particular facility to its fullest.
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Anand Sharma
In all units, we have kept some kind of overlap, some specialty, some primary voltage rating and the secondary voltage rating. And one plant's secondary voltage rating would be overlapping with another plant's maybe primary voltage rating, actually. So, this allows us to cater to the requirement of the entire spectrum, actually.
Mihir Manohar
Understood. Sure. Fair point exactly. On the 765 kV side, I mean, do we have the approval from PGCIL or how does it work? Because, I mean, the facility which was there for BTW, that was non-operational for a certain period of time. So, how does it work?
Anand Sharma
So, BTW facility was supplying and has supplied 765 kV products to Power
Grid till 2022. And as you rightly mentioned that this facility was not operational since then. Now that we have taken over this particular facility, we shall be initiating the process of getting the plant approval from Power
Grid and, subsequently getting the product approval also done from the
Power Grid. So, it will happen in due course of time.
Mihir Manohar
Understood. Sure. And just my last question was on the order book. Has the order book increased further, let's say, as of now, I mean, after the Rs. 1,584 crores number which is there?
Anand Sharma
Sir, we are seeing a steady growth in the order book. It might not be fair on our part to share as on date numbers, but we can assure you that we are moving at a steady and good pace on the order book side.
Mihir Manohar
Sure. Understood. That is all from my side. Thank you.
Anand Sharma
Thank you, sir.
Moderator
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Arfad Sayyed with
Reliance Nippon Life Insurance. Please go ahead.
Arfad Sayyed
Yes. Hi, sir. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on a superb listing.
Sir, my first question is on your order book. You said your order book is close to Rs. 1,584 crores. Can you get the mix of the order book in terms of KV class wise and also private players?
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Mehul Mehta
Sir, Mehul this side. So, regarding order book, kV class wise up to 66 kV, we have around 17% of the orders; 132 kV, 23% of the orders and 220 kV orders are at 60% of the total orders.
Arfad Sayyed
So, sir, how would this -- let's say, based on this thing, I think the higher kV class yet to be, let's say, captured fully. I think that will happen in the next couple of quarters. So, how your reaction will improve based on, let's say, per
MVA?
Mehul Mehta
So, sir, as we move up to higher KV class, realization per net MVA goes down and margins improves. This is how the KV class matrix works.
Arfad Sayyed
Got it, sir. And lastly, I just want to understand, let's say, demand outlook.
Now you are getting approval for higher KV class also. So, how the demand for, let's say, higher KV class, which is up to, let's say, 220 KV and also how the demand for below 220 KV class?
Niral Patel
Sir, Niral Patel this side. The demand of higher KV class, namely also 400 and
765 kV and also to the extent 220 kV class, stands fairly high. There is a shortfall in the nation as we speak. And that is the whole reason of Atlanta
Electricals is taking such a bold step to expand its facilities and intends to cater to the shortfall in the market. Demand is good and pretty steady and this will remain for years to come.
Arfad Sayyed
Got it, sir. Got it, sir. Thank you. Thank you, sir.
Moderator
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Naman Parmar with
Niveshaay Investments. Please go ahead.
Naman Parmar
Good afternoon, sir. Thank you so much for the opportunity. Firstly, I wanted to understand on the acquisition side, as you mentioned that you have already done your acquisition part and fully and it will be reflecting as a subsidiary in the couple of quarters, right? So, any royalty payment will be going to this BTW Chinese parent company or the technology type?
Niral Patel
The steps we have taken to close the transaction was to first cancel the technology license agreement and then buy the assets, meaning the shares
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October 17, 2025 of the company with the company's credentials. So that's how we have bought the company. The company now has no connections with BTW China and hence there is no question of any royalty payments.
Naman Parmar
Okay, understood. Secondly, on the industry side, as a lot of capacities are getting to come in by FY27, right? So, any price war type of situation you are facing in the industry? Given there is a very good demand on the industry because of a lot of rising data centers, renewables and all, but seeing a lot of capacity coming in, you are facing any price war type of situation?
Niral Patel
Not as of now and we anticipate that cycle of price wars is not going to kick in for a long period of time. That is our vision and the vision is backed by judgments like there is not just capacity addition that is happening, sir. There is upgradation of technology is also happening. India was predominantly ordering 400 and 765 kV. Now we are shifting our gears to HVDC.
So, people are upgrading their capacities relatively to cater to the higher demand of HVDCs and people like Atlanta would be expanding their capacities to cater to demands like 400 and 765 kV. So, we are all moving up in a ladder of capacity as well as technology. As soon as an OEM manufacturer establishes their technology in a higher kV class rating, the intentions would be to free up the space for the lower kV class that the manufacturer is making.
And that is where the industry is growing.
So, every capacity expansion that you see announced by OEM manufacturers would be relatively to the higher kV class rating from whatever they are manufacturing.
Naman Parmar
Okay, understood. And on the backward integration side, so currently how is the sourcing basically for the CRGO, tanks, radiators? Any issue there or it is very normal that there is no issue on the sourcing of the CRGO?
Anand Sharma
As we are seeing the crunch on the transformer supply, certainly as maybe indicated by you rightly, there is certainly pressure on the raw material supply chain thing also for the transformer component. But we have a robust, let us say, mechanism for the procurement of the material.
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We also enjoy support of our stakeholders, which is vendors with whom we have longstanding relationships. And a resultant is that we have till date not faced any situation wherein our transformers are waiting, our orders are waiting for the raw material to manufacture the transformer. So, we believe we will be able to, let us say, continue to travel on that track in a time to come as well.
Naman Parmar
Okay, understood. And lastly, on the order book side, if you can give the breakup as a client-wise, how much is from the PSUs and how much is from the private?
Anand Sharma
Typically, the ratio historically also and maybe in a time to come also would be around 70% to 30%, 70% being utility and 30% being the private players, which might include EPC contractors, IPPs and the industries.
Naman Parmar
Okay. Yes, that's it. Thank you so much for answering my question. Thank you so much, sir.
Moderator
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Yash Banka with Tiger Assets.
Please go ahead.
Yash Banka
Thank you. Sir, can you touch upon the supply chain side, specifically related to copper and the bushings? As we can see, the copper price is rising. So, are we seeing some sort of uptick in the cost, on the manufacturing side and will the margins be stable? And also, the bushings, if there is any extended timeline for sourcing bushings? Yes, that's my first question.
Anand Sharma
Sir, I was trying to touch upon the topic or rather trying to answer the earlier question or previous question. I'll take reference of that only. So, 70% of our business comes from utilities and 30% business comes from the private sector. The 70% business which comes from utility is backed up by the price variation formula. Within any, let's say, variation in the price, we are able to pass it on to the customer on a transparent basis. And hence, any variation on the copper prices is certainly not going to affect our margins for sure.
As far as the procurement of the bushing is concerned, as I was mentioning earlier, we have a robust mechanism to tackle the issues related to the items
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Yash Banka
Okay, understood. Very well answered, sir. So, any sort of data you have on the field dates or any sort of warranty claim that we have had in the past couple of years?
Mehul Mehta
No, sir. No such major warranty claims in past recent years. There may be a few of the complaints, customer complaints, that is of routine nature, small complaints, and that we need to attend through our service team. That is it.
Yash Banka
Okay, okay. I'll fall back in the queue. Thank you.
Moderator
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Deepak Poddar with Sapphire
Capital. Please go ahead.
Deepak Poddar
Thank you very much, sir, for this opportunity. So, just wanted to understand first of this acquisition consolidation is from which quarter, I mean?
Niral Patel
The consolidation will come from the second quarter onwards.
Deepak Poddar
Consolidation will come from second quarter?
Niral Patel
Yes.
Deepak Poddar
And what sort of revenue they are doing currently?
Niral Patel
Sir, BTW Atlanta had shut operations in 2022. Since then, they have not done any revenue so far. Post-acquisition, we have started operations there and the revenues from that unit will be shown in the second half of this year.
Deepak Poddar
And so, I mean, utilization ramp up will take some time. I mean, the Q2 will start and maybe second half you will ramp up?
Niral Patel
Yes, yes.
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Deepak Poddar
Okay, sure. And in terms of our total capacity, 63,000 MVA we have. I mean, that's our current capacity or anything is under construction in this 63,000
MVA?
Niral Patel
So, ~16,000 is what we had. ~30,000 is we constructed and ~15,000 is what we acquired. All of these facilities are under proper operations. They have commenced and they have commenced the manufacturing activities.
Manufacturing activities take a little bit of time to make large transformers and we suggest H2 of this year is when we see the top line growing.
Deepak Poddar
Fair enough. So, how should one look at the utilization level? I mean, I think
FY25 we did a volume of, let's say, some 16,500 MVA, right? So, how should one envisage the utilization level over the next three years, the ramp up?
Some sense on that would be very helpful.
Niral Patel
So, we as a company, I'll give you a brief. Unit 1, 2, and 3 in in FY25 was running at 100% utilization and they are running at 100% utilization now also.
Like I mentioned, we will not be able to share a forward guidance, but we can share the intention of the company. The intention of the company is to have the same growth trajectory as historically the company has been doing, gradual ramp up in terms of volumes of sales and in terms of newer product developments, namely 400 kV and 765 kV class transformers and reactors.
Deepak Poddar
Okay. And fully, I mean, optimum utilization in the next three years, can we envisage in three years we'll be at optimum utilization of our capacity?
Niral Patel
We intend, I mean, the company is intending to do so. Yes.
Deepak Poddar
Okay. I think that's very helpful, sir. That would be from my side. All the very best.
Moderator
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Jai Chauhan with
Trinetra Asset Managers. Please go ahead.
Jai Chauhan
Good afternoon. Thank you for the opportunity. So, I just have two questions.
One says, do you procure and make laminations by yourself or do you buy laminations for the code directly?
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Anand Sharma
So, we procure lamination from the approved sources of Atlanta, which happens to be the renowned sources in the domestic industry.
Jai Chauhan
Understood, understood, sir. But I wanted to understand, like, I think, if you, like, how does it work if you do it in-house? Can the margins get better or it doesn't work that way?
Anand Sharma
It's really difficult to, let's say, maybe assess. At this point in time, we have not really made any assessment of such sort. But, yes, so it's not fair on our part to make any comment there. We have not made any such assessment.
Jai Chauhan
Understood, understood, sir. And the second question, sir, like, what technology did BTW, Chinese JV, brought in the past?
Niral Patel
So, BTW, China had a technology tie-up agreement with BTW, Atlanta
Transformers India, Private Limited in India. So, the technology was brought from the parent company to manufacture 765 kV class transformers, 400 kV class transformers and 765 kV class reactors in the Indian company.
Jai Chauhan
Sir, I just wanted to understand what exactly is the differentiator there for the higher kV classes of the transformers and, like, what kind of technology was exactly required at that time?
Niral Patel
Sir, so they are fairly technical products. A lot of mathematical and electrical calculations go in place. Softwares are procured to do the calculation for designing the transformer. And at the same time, know-how of, in the terms of routine manufacturing, the know-how as to how to manufacture this kind of transformers efficiently is the technology.
So, when we say a technological tie-up is done, we have witnessed this whole exercise and we have witnessed this manufacturing cycle when it had happened in 2018 to 2022.
Jai Chauhan
Sure, sir. Thank you. Thank you for answering my question. Thank you.
Moderator
We will move on to the next question. It's from the line of Sagar Dhawan with
Valuequest. Please go ahead.
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Sagar Dhawan
Yes, hi. Thanks for the opportunity. Just wanted to understand, basically, how would the order book build-up happen to be able to utilize the expanded capacity that has come online this year? So, just wanted to understand your perspective on how far out, basically, the order that you're booking today give you the visibility of sales?
Niral Patel
This is Niral Patel again. The order book build-up in our industry happens kV class-wise. 400 kV class and 765 kV class, typically, it is 18 months to two years of lead time. In 220 kV class, it's about 9 months to 12 months. In 132 and 66, it ranges from four to six months. Typically, a for a 66, or a 33, or also, to an extent, 132 kV class transformer, we would end up getting orders in this – in the current year, and we would also end up manufacturing, closing the order in the current year itself, typically. However, the larger KV rating orders are long-term orders.
Atlanta Electricals, as a company, has already started making their customers aware of the fact that Atlanta is trying to enter into 400 kV space. Fortunately, with the recent announcements that we've already done with the stock exchange, we have also started receiving orders for 400 kV, and those orders will certainly fall for manufacturing in the next coming year.
Sagar Dhawan
Understood, sir. And could you give us an idea of the enquiry pipeline that you're seeing right now?
Anand Sharma
Yes, Sagarji, Anand Sharma this side. It may not be feasible on our part to, let's say, give any numbers as of now on this call, but we can assure you that our sales team is really working hard to generate the enquiries, and as a company, we are working hard to convert those enquiries into orders so that we can fill the newly built facilities appropriately and make good use of it in a time to come.
Sagar Dhawan
Got it, sir. Understood. And one last data point question, actually. What is the current gross debt level?
Mehul Mehta
Gross debt. Okay. Yes. So, gross debt, long-term debt was Rs. 330 crores due to acquisition of BTW and Vadod Plant Project term loan. However, we have
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October 17, 2025 repaid out of the equity proceeds the Vadod term loan fully, that is Rs. 130 crores, and out of Rs. 210 crores of this BTW acquisition, we are repaying
INR85 crores as of now. So, around Rs. 125 crores will be of long-term debt outstanding , sir.
Sagar Dhawan
Thanks a lot. Thanks for taking my questions.
Moderator
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Mihir Manohar with Trust
Mutual Fund. Please go ahead.
Mihir Manohar
Hi, sir. Thanks for giving the follow-up. Sir, you mentioned about this Vadod facility which is there, that is on 400 kV class. I mean, what steps or what procedure does it take? Is it fungible to 765 kV? I mean, can we upgrade it?
How does it work?
Niral Patel
Sir, the facilities are made, like I mentioned, transformer manufacturing is anyways a long-term business. The facilities are developed in such a way that they are one level upgradable without any civil changes only by adding better equipments. So, when we say our Vadod facility is 400 KV class, with adding little bit of testing equipments, we can upgrade the facility to 765 KV class without making any civil changes.
When we say BTW is 765 kV class, we can upgrade the facility easily by adding certain equipments, machines for testing the transformers to make it a 1,200 kV class facility.
Mihir Manohar
Understood, sir. Perfect, sir. Perfect. On the 765 kV side for the BTW, I mean, do we require a product approval again since we have started the plant?
Anand Sharma
Yes, sir. It certainly would be the case, actually. And this is something we mentioned earlier on this particular call that we shall have to get the plant approval done to start with and followed by the product approval done by the power grid. And that is something we shall certainly be undertaking and getting it done in due course of time.
Mihir Manohar
Understood. So, I mean, when can we expect, let's say, we as the external party should expect that? End of the year?
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Anand Sharma
To give you a definite timeline, may not be a possible thing as of now, sir, but knowing the efficiency levels at which our organization has been working, we are sure that we will be able to finish it off, we will be able to get these things done at a very, let's say, short span of time.
Mihir Manohar
Understood. Perfect, sir. Perfect. And the last question was on the margin side. Are the gross margins in the order that we are looking now, are they improving versus the gross margins that we were looking, let's say, three months back or six months back?
Anand Sharma
Sir, again, these margins as we speak, we are not seeing, let's say, any growth as of now, because of the very fact that whatever orders we had booked maybe in a year back of higher voltage class are possibly coming to the shop floor now. Whatever orders we shall be booking now will see slight, let's say, change on the positive sides, on the margin, and which will have the reflection on the bottomline in years to come, actually. But at the moment, it is quite flattish, actually.
Mihir Manohar
Okay. Understood. Yes. That's it from my side.
Moderator
The next question comes from the line of Prathmesh Salunkhe with PL Capital.
Prathmesh Salunkhe
Hi, sir. Thank you for the follow-up opportunity. So, continuing on the margin front, I had questions on margin only. So, we saw some 15.5% of EBITDA margin this quarter. So, my first question was, is this margin sustainable given the new factories are coming up and we might incur some additional cost relating to the -- when the factories come online, we need some additional cost. So, will this cost actually impact the margins? Are 15.5% margins sustainable going forward?
Niral Patel
Yes, sir. To answer your question, this margin is very much sustainable.
Whatever the expense is required to lift the Vadod facility ramp-up has already been done and factored in. So, this margin is quite sustainable and margin improvement is also possible, but it depends on how the facilities will ramp up.
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Prathmesh Salunkhe
Okay. So, we are estimating the facilities to ramp up in the next one year, right? And we are also entering into the higher kV class transformers. So, do we think it's possible for us to reach margin levels of let's say 17%, 18% in next one year or two years?
Niral Patel
It depends on how operations ramp up, but yes, margin improvement is possible. However, giving any range is not possible at present.
Moderator
The next question comes from the line of Mangesh Bhadang with Allcargo
Family Office.
Mangesh Bhadang
Hi Sir, I had a question. Yes. Sir, I had a question regarding, we've been hearing some news about shortages of transformers in US because of the data center boom there. Just wanted to understand how are we trying to fill that gap or are we looking at those markets for the products that we have?
Firstly, I want to understand whether our products are suitable for these applications. And if yes, are we looking at this market aggressively? Because we're hearing that at least 2 times to 3 times is the price that currently the US transformers have compared to the Chinese one.
Anand Sharma
So, like Indian market means US market, as rightly pointed out by you, is seeing a sharp surge in the requirement of transformers. We as a company have been doing very minuscule, let's say, level of exports till date because of the very simple reason that we didn't have enough capacity to produce and supply transformers for the export market and we were busy with the domestic market front only.
We are seeing a good amount of interest from various, let's say, partners or the customers for the US requirement. We are still in active discussions with, let's say, two or three players. However, it might not be -- it might be very, very early for us to comment and commit anything on the outcome at the moment. But, yes, market is looking promising and we are making efforts to make an entry into that particular market.
Mangesh Bhadang
Okay. Secondly, also I wanted to understand, what would be the timeline for
PowerGrid to basically approve the products that would be making from BTW
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October 17, 2025 and for that facility also to be basically approved from PGCL. So, what would be the timeline you would be looking at for higher kV products?
Anand Sharma
We are eyeing or we are aiming to get the plant approval done in next quarter and followed by the product approval. Because for the product approval, we'll have to make the prototype and get the type testing done. So, it will take certainly some more time for us to finish the short circuit test on the prototype. But on the plant approval side, we are aiming that we should be able to finish that up and get the approval in next one quarter's time. That's what our aim is.
Moderator
The next question comes from the line of Ayush with MSFL.
Ayush
Hi. Thank you for the opportunity. I just wanted to understand if you could please share the production numbers achieved in the first quarter and additionally, are you on track to meet the annual production target of 33,600
MVA for FY 26 as mentioned on the page number 124 of your RHP?
Niral Patel
So, sir, exact production number, are you talking about MVA?
Ayush
Yes, sir. In the first quarter in MVA terms.
Niral Patel
Right, sir. So, commenting anything on the future numbers will not be possible for us at present. However, MVA number what we have achieved in
Q1 is 4,300 MVA as of June quarter. Whatever the future numbers you are suggesting, we cannot comment upon anything. But yes, we are progressing.
We are progressing well actually.
Moderator
The next question is from the line of Yash Banka with Tiger Assets. Yash Banka, your line has been unmuted. Please go ahead with your question.
Yash Banka
Yes. Sir, just can -- if you can provide any execution timeline for the current order book of around Rs. 1,584 odd crores.
Niral Patel
Sir, this order book is depending on the customer guidelines for deliveries. It would not be right for me to share the exact guidelines, because that would give forward numbers. But to give a brief on how the industry functions
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October 17, 2025 broadly, any orders booked post second half are usually comes into manufacturing the next year. Orders before the second half -- second financial half of the year, which we normally make, majority of the order book gets executed in the current financial year itself.
Yash Banka
Okay. Okay. And do we have any sort of data on the customer acquisition timelines? Or like from acquiring a customer to getting the order and then executing it. Any average timeline?
Anand Sharma
No, sir. We have actually not prepared any data around that particular question or query of yours. But typically, sir, again, depending on the requirement of the customer, it can take anywhere right from 3 months to 6 months to 9 months time. And it all depends on the process which customer wants to follow on the vendor approval side.
Yash Banka
Got it. Got it. And just one last question. Do you have any sort of unit economics per MVA or per transformer that we can compare across your units? Say Anand-1, Anand-2 and the other plants?
Anand Sharma
No, sir. Typically, comparison or other such values are derived on per MVA basis, unit price realization, UPR, for a specific voltage class. And this UPR for
66 would be X, for 132 would be Y, 220 kV it would be Z. So, yes, it varies from voltage class to voltage class. And as we only can say that as we move up on the voltage class, the unit price realization drops.
Yash Banka
Understood. Understood. Okay. Okay. Thank you. All the best.
Anand Sharma
Thank you, sir.
Moderator
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Jainam with Saltoro
Investment. Please go ahead.
Jainam
Congratulations on the Rs. 183 crores order of 400 kV class. So, I just wanted to understand how big is the opportunity putting aside, let's say, the central utility PGCIL, whatever approval timeline it may take. But even with the private sector, as well as probably state utilities, do we require any approval?
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That's question number one. And if so, approval is not required, how big is the opportunity within these two pockets in itself?
Niral Patel
Thank you. Thank you for wishes, sir. It was actually a prestigious order that we received from a customer, privately owned. And such opportunities are there in the market, and they are also sizable, which can, you know, help us grow in the 400 kV segment.
The opportunities from PGCIL are significantly large, and they are, you know, the pressures are on both sides, as we speak, as to PGCIL to find the right type of vendors and for Atlanta Electricals to find the right type of customers.
Discussions are on way to crack PGCIL so that, you know, we can end up having a good visibility on our order book coming forward.
When we say approvals, there are certain state transmission companies who do not have the process of making a plant approval. Those customers are easier to fetch. However, certain customers would have a proper plant approval process, which we have initiated with majority of our existing state- owned transmission companies who are already our customers, and they would be approving our plant.
The process initiates in such a way that the plants first get ISO accreditation, then the NABL accreditation, and then the vendor, the plant approval process follows. It usually should not take much time since the plants are already capable to manufacture these kind of transformers, and we have commenced operations to prove that the plant is capable to manufacture these kind of transformers.
Jainam
So, typically, that's great to hear. So, typically, for state utilities, we are saying some state utilities won't require approval necessarily, just like the private player that we won the order for. We can immediately start supplying the 400 kV transformers. Certain state utilities wouldn’t need it. And the approval timelines would be fairly quick. Is that a fair conclusion?
Anand Sharma
Yes, yes, absolutely.
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Sure. Why we are able to put this across that certain utilities will not require any approval? Because we are already approved with all those utilities for the supply of products up to 220 kV. And this is the track record, or rather the good track record we have had with them for the supply of 220 kV products.
We certainly get this, I would say, chance to produce and supply transformers for 400 kV also. So, it is that confidence of the customer which is enabling us to move forward in the 00 & 765 kV segment.
Jainam
Got it. So, have we already supplied to any state utilities or won orders? Or is it something that's pending? Because this was a private sector one, right, that we won?
Anand Sharma
Yes.
Jainam
So, for state utilities, have we won any orders?
Anand Sharma
Sir, this project is getting executed by a private EPC player, but this is…
Jainam
I'm not referring to the particular project, Anand ji. I get that. But apart from this particular one, is there any your customer, your client for this one would be BNC Power, right? But is there any state utility that you have won an order for where you will be directly supplying 400 kV class transformers is what I was asking?
Anand Sharma
No, sir. Not as of now.
Jainam
Okay, got it. And typically, what would be the order size for state utilities versus PGCL? I think Niral ji was talking about PGCL, the scale being higher.
So, just to get a ballpark idea of how the order size is typically?
Niral Patel
TypicallyState transmission companies operate in the 220 kV segment. They do require 400 & 765 kV products to tap into the central grid. However, the quantum of 400 &765 kV are comparatively less to 220 kV.
Niral Patel
Typically, we see a range of about 7 to 10 transformers in a developing state and say about 10 to 15 transformers from a power developed state on yearly basis that comes from each state.
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Jainam
Got it. Got it. Those are my questions. Thank you very much and all the very best.
Niral Patel
Thank you, sir.
Anand Sharma
Thank you, sir.
Moderator
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question for today's conference call. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Niral Patel for closing comments.
Niral Patel
Thank you, everyone, for joining and for spending your valuable time to understand about Atlanta Electricals. I would like to thank you all once again for giving us support in a very good listing and a very good growth trajectory.
Thanks again. Thank you.
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